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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:48 am 
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interesting article - thanks Figgy!
despite what I comment on below, I did enjoy reading JK's article

we have gone from Muggle to No-Maj ... ok, she was sued by the woman who first came up with the word 'muggle', but won the case, so I am not sure why they changed this.

we have gone from Galleons, Sickles & Knuts to Dragots ... why. Are there really enough magical folks to support all the different currencies? I was sure she stated that Gringotts was THE BANK for all witches and wizards in the world.


I realize I may be a little over dramatic with my next statement, but I can't change my core of 'down-the-road-what-ifs' way of thinking. It is imbedded deep within my psych.

I fear, that JK has become somewhat bored with her original HP series and wants to switch things up a bit; maybe even a lot. I do not look forward to the day when she changes something that is 'so very highly regarded' by all the original HP fans and we lose total regard and respect for her. I hope she never changes the core of the magical world she created.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:23 pm 
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Part Four
https://www.pottermore.com/collection-e ... america-en
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1920s Wizarding America
By J.K. Rowling

The wizards of America had played their part in the Great War of 1914-1918, even if the overwhelming majority of their No-Maj compatriots were ignorant of their contribution. As there were magical factions on both sides, their efforts were not decisive, but they won many victories in preventing additional loss of life, and in defeating their magical enemies.

This common endeavour led to no softening on MACUSA’s stance on No-Maj/wizard fraternisation, and Rappaport’s Law remained firmly in place. By the 1920s the US wizarding community had become used to existing under a greater degree of secrecy than their European counterparts and to selecting their mates strictly from within their own ranks.

The memory of Dorcus Twelvetrees' catastrophic breach of the Statute of Secrecy had entered magical language, so that being ‘a Dorcus’ was slang for an idiot or inept person. MACUSA continued to impose severe penalties on those who flouted the International Statute of Secrecy. MACUSA was also more intolerant of such magical phenomena as ghosts, poltergeists and fantastic creatures than its European equivalents, because of the risk such beasts and spirits posed of alerting No-Majs to the existence of magic.

After the Great Sasquatch Rebellion of 1892 (for full details, see Ortiz O’Flaherty’s highly-acclaimed book Big Foot’s Last Stand), MACUSA headquarters was relocated for the fifth time in its history, moving from Washington to New York, where it remained throughout the 1920s. President of MACUSA throughout the decade was Madam Seraphina Picquery, a famously gifted witch from Savannah.

By the 1920s Ilvermorny School of Witchcraft and Wizardry had been flourishing for more than two centuries and was widely considered to be one of the greatest magical education establishments in the world. In consequence of their common education, all witches and wizards are proficient in the use of a wand.

Legislation introduced at the end of the nineteenth century meant that every member of the magical community in America was required to carry a ‘wand permit’, a measure that was intended to keep tabs on all magical activity and identify the perpetrators by their wands. Unlike Britain, where Ollivanders was considered unbeatable, the continent of North America was served by four great wandmakers.

Shikoba Wolfe, who was of Chocktaw descent, was primarily famous for intricately carved wands containing Thunderbird tail feathers (the Thunderbird is a magical American bird closely related to the phoenix). Wolfe wands were generally held to be extremely powerful, though difficult to master. They were particulary prized by Transfigurers.

Johannes Jonker, a Muggle-born wizard whose No-Maj father was an accomplished cabinet maker, turned himself into an accomplished wandmaker. His wands were highly sought after and instantly recognisable, as they were usually inlaid with mother-of-pearl. After experimenting with many cores, Jonker’s preferred magical material was hair of the Wampus cat.

Thiago Quintana caused ripples through the magical world when his sleek and usually lengthy wands began entering the market, each encasing a single translucent spine from the back of the White River Monsters of Arkansas and producing spells of force and elegance. Fears about over-fishing of the monsters were assuaged when it was proven that Quintana alone knew the secret of luring them, a secret he guarded jealously until his death, at which point wands containing White River Monster spines ceased production.

Violetta Beauvais, the famous wandmaker of New Orleans, refused for many years to divulge the secret core of her wands, which were always made of swamp mayhaw wood. Eventually it was discovered that they contained hair of the rougarou, the dangerous dog-headed monster that prowled Louisiana swamps. It was often said of Beauvais wands that they took to Dark magic like vampires to blood, yet many an American wizarding hero of the 1920s went into battle armed only with a Beauvais wand, and President Picquery herself was known to possess one.

Unlike the No-Maj community of the 1920s, MACUSA allowed witches and wizards to drink alcohol. Many critics of this policy pointed out that it made witches and wizards rather conspicuous in cities full of sober No-Majs. However, in one of her rare light-hearted moments, President Picquery was heard to say that being a wizard in America was already hard enough. ‘The Gigglewater’, as she famously told her Chief of Staff, ‘is non-negotiable.’




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:42 pm 
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Thanks for the update Figgy!!


Wampus cat?
White River Monsters of Arkansas?
rougarou?
Gigglewater? (lol - very cool name!)

Are we going to be tested on these later?
I have a feeling that this has a lot to do with the immediate background of the upcoming movie ... what do you think?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:22 pm 
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Not that I'm jaded or anything, but...

I think they came up with enough different stuff for Fantastic Beasts that if we hard-core HP fans walked in (which they are counting on us stampeding to see anything with the franchise name on it and blithely toss pounds and piles of money to them) and hadn't been teased, primed, and whipped into a frenzie, their movie would have had a couple day long run with tons of bad press and maybe even boycotting.

Unlike Harry, FB wasn't a book first. Yes, there is that little "school book" she did for the fund raiser, but this movie is a story rather than a bit of fluff to raise money for a good cause. I want to think she has been boxed into corners legally and doesn't need the brain-damage of trying to "shout down the ocean" so is going along with what all those legal types want. Warner Bros., on the other hand, is just plain big business evil. They only care about their own bottom line, thus are more than likely the driving force behind controlling everything. Before they were involved she actively encouraged kids to read and fan fiction to be written, plus she used The HP Lexicon herself to make sure her facts were straight. WB grabs onto making movies that use the name and some of the ideas, let all of what JKR and fans created keep on for the first couple movies (they were testing the waters - and looked at all of us as cash cows they didn't want to spook away from providing their profits). Once they figured out we were "easy", WB dropped all pretense of having any respect for us or JKR's art... which is when the suing and threats of law suits and general bad vibes took over.

I am willing to see lots of changes and have to compartmentalize the way we did with the Star Treks. Someone who defined Star Trek by the original one would have a heck of a time accepting the differences in Next Gen or DS9 or Enterprise or even the movies - so there's a bit of mental gymnastics to allowing stories that different to carry the sacred moniker. Almost all of us got to the point of liking at least one of the newer ones far better than the original (at the very least the special effects and make up were MUCH improved over the Shatner/Nimoy ST). So I am willing to keep this separate from kids at Hogwarts, but still retain the established tenants of magical worlds and strange creatures... I really do want some info so the clash of concepts is softened somewhat... But I also have no illusions that the four articles above are anything other than completely promotional Vaseline.



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1. The names she's chosen seem to be charactertures of names that might exist on this side of The Pond. It is somewhat justified with the backstory of magical people emigrating to North America, but they are even a tad outrageous for brought-over-European-names. (But I probably thought that of ones like Scrimgeour when I first saw them, too... so not sure how much of that thought is valid and how much is Xenophobic of me.)

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being ‘a Dorcus’ was slang for an idiot or inept person
...Its cleverly working in a bit of American slang. Being a Dork...

3. Its cool how the Beauvais wands, with their "hair of the rougarou, the dangerous dog-headed monster that prowled Louisiana swamps", are like the Dragon Heartstrings wands of Ollivanders' and the other European wand makers, tend to be drawn/used more to the Dark Side. Then it says that a lot of powerful-not-necessarily-negative witches and wizards also have them, as with the Dragon Heartstrings ones. (Hermione's has Dragon Heartstring core, but so does Bella's, Lucius', and even Ollivander's own.) So there is some consistency in the workings of magic on both Continents.


4. I like the concept and acronym of MACUSA better than Ministry of/for Magic, but only because I grew up with the concept of the governing body being a Congress rather than a Parliament. They all do the same thing, but, back to Xenophobia, its what I'm more familiar with... automatic pilot.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:02 pm 
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Figgy wrote:
But I also have no illusions that the four articles above are anything other than completely promotional Vaseline.

Of course they are ... they need to get the general public excited enough to go to the movie. They are trying to keep her name in the news weekly/monthly to try and keep the hype alive.

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A friend of mine had a aunt named Dorcus. :angry-tappingfoot:


She was a most delightful woman. :handgestures-thumbupright:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:22 pm 
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Pottermore released a sorting to the Houses in North America. I am House Thunderbird (it feels like GOT lol).
I couldn´t find the quiz on the page so I leave you the link to an article that included it.

http://www.hypable.com/ilvermorny-quiz- ... ic-beasts/


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Either it mostly sorts to Thunderbird, or all of us have A LOT in common. Think of the adventures we will all have!


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We do! LOL though several friends took it and only one got Thunderbird, I like the name :)


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I am one as well.


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